Friday, June 13, 2008

Ireland Says NO to EU Fascist Empire

Great news from Ireland today. The Irish people say NO to the Lisbon Treaty. Of course, the EU won't accept this. They will plot and scheme, count on it. We could use some great news like this after our Supreme Court ruled yesterday that jihadists from all over the world have the same rights as American citizens effectively stripping the military of the right to hold military trials for jihadists captured.

All the 'oppressed elitists' are crying today. Cry me a river! I'll go dance in the streets and splash in the puddles of tears of the oppressed elitists whose plan has gone so very, very wrong.

Irish minister says EU vote lost

European leaders say they have no "plan B" if the treaty is rejected
Irish Justice Minister Dermot Ahern says substantial vote tallies across the country show the European Union Lisbon reform treaty has been rejected.

Tallies are not official, but Mr Ahern says it is clear the No vote is ahead in a vast majority of constituencies.

This would scupper the treaty, which must be ratified by all members. Only Ireland has held a public vote on it.

Mr Ahern is the first senior figure from the Irish government to admit that it looked like the treaty had failed.

"It looks like this will be a No vote," Mr Ahern said on live television. "At the end of the day, for a myriad of reasons, the people have spoken."

He said it looked like other EU countries would ratify the treaty, so an Irish No vote would leave the EU in "unchartered waters".

Earlier, Europe Minister Dick Roche had admitted "it is not looking good", after state broadcaster RTE said that the Yes vote was "in difficulty".

The BBC's Jonny Dymond in Dublin says a rejection of the treaty, meant to streamline decision-making in the now expanded EU, could plunge the bloc into crisis.

In Irish polls, tally counters in each constituency watch votes being sorted and make their own count, giving early indications of how a vote is going.

Any Yes campaigner dropping in to the Marlborough Street polling station around midday might think the battle lost

European leaders have said that they have no "plan B" for how to proceed if Ireland's electorate does vote No.

"If the Irish people decide to reject the treaty of Lisbon, naturally, there will be no treaty of Lisbon," French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said on Thursday night.

Declan Ganley of the anti-treaty lobby group Libertas said that if the No vote had indeed triumphed that it was "a great day for Ireland".

"The people of Ireland have shown enormous courage and wisdom in analysing the facts presented to them and making the decision they have," Mr Ganley said.

The No campaign was a broad coalition ranging from Libertas to Sinn Fein, the only party in parliament to oppose the treaty.


Our correspondent says that many voters seem to have voted No for the simple reason that they did not understand the treaty, despite a high-profile campaign led by Prime Minister Brian Cowen, which had the support of most of the country's main parties.

The BBC's Europe editor Mark Mardell on what a No vote would mean
Mr Cowen accused the No camp of "misrepresentation", saying voters had voiced concern about "issues that clearly weren't in the treaty at all", the Irish Times reported.

Turnout is said to have been about 45%. Commentators had predicted that a low turnout figure would suggest a rejection.

The treaty, which is designed to help the EU cope with its expansion into eastern Europe, provides for a streamlining of the European Commission, the removal of the national veto in more policy areas, a new president of the European Council and a strengthened foreign affairs post.

Jose Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commission, urged all EU states to back the treaty, which is due to come into force on 1 January 2009.

He said the reforms would strengthen the EU to meet global challenges.

Fourteen countries out of the 27 have completed ratification so far.

The Lisbon Treaty replaces a more ambitious draft constitution that was rejected by French and Dutch voters in 2005.

Just over three million Irish voters are registered - in a European Union of 490 million people.

In 2001, Irish voters almost wrecked EU plans to expand eastwards when they rejected the Nice treaty. It was only passed in a much-criticised second vote.

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