Wednesday, July 09, 2008

Jizya for Jihadists, Western Style

Here's an interesting article on the jizya paid to Muslims in the West. Of course, England is absurd, but what is interesting is the comparison to other countries at the end. Italy is surprisingly tough. France as bad as the UK. Maybe you couldn't call it jizyah but more bleeding the West financially with all the costs the poor dears endure to show 'benevolence' to their future murderers.

It is also amusing. All this concern about torture or gasp, the death penalty in Jordan if Qatada was deported back home rots the liberal's brain. Pack him up and his fertile chattelbitch and their jihadist jrs. and dump 'em on the tarmac in Amman, Jordan! As long as liberals and uninformed politicians do not see Islam as a threat to the West, this will go on and the financial bleeding of the kafir will too.

As told to me by Abu, who heard it from Abuha who heard it from Abuhabub, "Mohammed said it is halal to suck the kafir's society dry until their eyes pop out of their sockets!"

£800,000 home, a life on benefits, no wonder Al Qaeda ambassador Abu Qatada's smiling
By David Williams
Last updated at 10:54 PM on 09th July 2008

The picture is an affront to all victims of terrorism and their families.

Abu Qatada, Al Qaeda's ambassador in Europe, strolls along a busy London street fondling his prayer beads.

This is the first photograph of the greying 47-year-old - said to be one of the world's most dangerous terrorist suspects - since he was released on bail from a high-security prison after the courts ordered that he could not be sent home to Jordan because his human rights would have been breached.

Out on bail: Prayer beads in hand, Al Qaeda's ambassador in Europe takes a stroll to the shops near his home

It was taken on July 7, hours after the families and friends of the 52 innocent people killed in the London transport suicide bombings three years ago remembered their loved ones at a memorial service.

The radical cleric was freed three weeks ago when a judge ruled that there were no grounds to detain him after previous attempts to deport him to Jordan, where he was convicted of terror attacks and bomb plots, were defeated in the courts. Described by another judge as 'a truly dangerous individual', he remains an iconic figure for many supporters of jihad.

Lawyers successfully argued in the Court of Appeal that Qatada could stay because evidence used against him in any prosecution in Jordan might have been obtained by torture - a breach of the European Convention on Human Rights.

The fanatical preacher, who was 20 stone but slimmed down on prison food, was pictured on a shopping trip near the £800,000 home he shares with his wife and children. Exact details of the location where the Qatada family are living on benefits of an estimated £50,000 a year are protected by court orders.

Despite being under virtual house arrest, the cleric appeared relaxed as he walked to nearby shops occasionally stroking his bushy, greying beard.

At one stage, he shared a joke with a woman about his brown prayer beads, laughing and then beaming after her comments.

Later, they were replaced in his right hand by a six-pack of Diet Coke bottles while under his left arm he clutched a bumper-pack of toilet rolls.

The father of five has claimed incapacity benefit for a bad back but on Monday he was wearing a green rucksack in case he needed to carry extra goods.

Just above the battered white training shoe on his right foot, and partially concealed by a sock, is the electronic tag he must wear as part of his strict bail conditions imposed by the Special Immigration Appeals Tribunal.

Qatada is allowed to leave his rented four-bedroom semi for one hour a day after 10am and another hour from 2pm.

Other restrictions include not using a mobile telephone - although he can use a landline - not using a computer and not having any contact, directly or indirectly, with a list of terrorists including Osama Bin Laden.

Neighbours who came forward soon after Qatada was freed spoke of their outrage over having such a man in the area while British soldiers are being killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The decision to free Qatada has left Britain's anti-terror laws in tatters and the taxpayer facing a bill of tens of thousands of pounds to keep the preacher under surveillance by the security services.

Then there are the handouts - he receives an estimated £150 a week in incapacity benefit while his 45-year-old wife is said to be entitled to child benefits, income support, housing and council tax credits which exceed £800 each week.

According to experts, the benefits are broken down into £499.62 in housing and £81.55 for four of the family's children who are under 18.

The family is also said to pick up around £210 in income support - a slightly lower figure than usual because of Qatada's incapacity benefit payment.

Of the five children, only those aged 17,14, nine and six are eligible for the child benefit payments. Their oldest, who is 19, is not entitled to a handout.

The couple are exempt from paying the £2,283 yearly council tax bill on their home - it is picked up by the authorities. Currently, similar properties in the same road as Qatada are being leased for £620 a week.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has appealed against the decision not to deport Qatada to Jordan while the Conservatives have said it is 'offensive' that he cannot be thrown out.

The rulings mean that - despite Tony Blair's promise in the aftermath of the 7/7 attacks that the 'rules of the game have changed' - not a single international terrorist has been forcibly removed from this country.

Would any other country treat him quite so well?
Few other countries would have treated Abu Qatada quite so generously as Britain. Here, Christian Gysin examines the contrasts...

The U.S.

Qatada would have been arrested under the Terrorism Act and declared a ' dangerous person'. He could have expected a life sentence for having had an envelope containing money destined for the 'mujahedin in Chechnya'.

If he won an appeal, the U.S. would have tried to return him to Jordan or have him extradited to another Middle Eastern country. He would not receive any state handouts.


Suspected terrorists are held in jail and rarely given bail.

Once freed after serving their sentence they are served with a deportation order and told to leave the country and held at an illegal immigrant centre until they find somewhere to go.

Qatada would not qualify for state benefits. He would not be sent back to Jordan because of torture fears.


Suspected foreign terrorists can be held in isolation for up to 13 days with limited rights to a lawyer and can subsequently be detained for up to four years on remand.

Spanish rules on extradition are very much in line with those of Britain so it is possible Qatada's extradition to Jordan would have been blocked by courts.

However, with no rights to be living in Spain it is unlikely Abu Qatada and his family would receive any state benefits.


He would be treated similarly to Britain and would not be extradited to Jordan.

The same fears about torture apply and Germany will not extradite if there is a risk.

If given residency, Qatada would be held in a refugee holding camp or in state accommodation.

In the former he would get just pocket money. If allowed on to the welfare system he would find it appreciably less generous than Britain.


Would also have refused to deport a terror suspect if there was a risk of torture.

If there was clear evidence he had committed terrorist acts, he would be held in a secure immigration detention centre or prison until a case against him could be brought.

If there was insufficient evidence, he would be freed on bail under strict conditions.

Qatada and his family would be entitled to full French state benefits while at liberty and living legally in France - with the handouts at a similar level to those in UK.


Anonymous said...

[[Lawyers successfully argued in the Court of Appeal that Qatada could stay because evidence used against him in any prosecution in Jordan might have been obtained by torture - a breach of the European Convention on Human Rights.]]

All night partying and dancing by Leftists, Liberals and the Politically Correct led by Tony Blair and his NuLabour. What victory!

[[Neighbours who came forward soon after Qatada was freed spoke of their outrage over having such a man in the area while British soldiers are being killed in Afghanistan and Iraq]]

If 100, 000 Koreans joined by hundreds of Roman Catholic nuns, hundreds of Buddhist monks can march against mad cow disease US beef, why isn't the whole of Britain organising marches nationwide against the potential mass murderer Qatada? NuLabour throw millions of their countrymen into prison? Or back down?
Storm the bastille, as it were, for godsake! Or are you waiting for Big Ben , Whitehall, Westminister Abbey, Buck's Place to go up in smoke with thousands dead?
Abu Hamza had those buildings in sight for detonation only he was apprehended before he could carry out his mission to "strike terror in the hearts of the infidels" and bring you lot into submission, on your crawling knees, to islam.

The Centre for Social Cohesion has put up on its website partial transcripts of some of abu Qatada’s jihadi rants in Britain, delivered in Arabic and obtained by the Centre from an extremist website. Its press release reveals for example that in one lecture ‘Wajib al-Muslim’ (‘The Duty of Muslims’) obtained by the CSC, Abu Qatada explicitly calls on Muslims to murder non-Muslims, saying that: ‘Our countries have been infiltrated by kaffirs [non-Muslims]. It is farid [duty] for us to turn our swords on to them and kill them.’
He adds: ‘We must fight the kaffirs. We can't reason with them. We can't reach a compromise and we can't be friends.’ In another recorded speech entitled ‘Seerah’(‘The Path’) he launches a tirade against Christians and Jews while outlining his apocalyptic visions of the future, describing Christianity and Judaism as ‘devil worshipping’ and saying: ‘There will be a great battle against the wathaniyah [Jews and Christians] where the saviour will come back to this earth, the king with an army in the sky, killing the Jews, wipe them out, and rid of the planet of the Jews.

Hours after he walked out free he released a book in which he urges Muslims to commit terrorist attacks upon the west.
In the 71-page tract, published in English translation on the internet, he repeatedly claims that fighting jihad, holy war, is obligatory for all muslims and urges them to 'terrorise' non-believers. Security sources say his clear incitement to violence makes a mockery of the decision to set him free.

And the West is telling the world that you are serious about combatting terrorism? Go tell your toddlers, guys. It is we in the East, methinks, who will be left fighting muslims along with the Russia, the Vatican and Germany, with China and Russia leading the war. CHINA has already given a preview of what she will do when she razed a mosque in Xinjiang because the Uighurs were not supporting Beijing's Olympics.
WORLD REACTION: Middle East: Mum, not a peep. Pakistan: Mum, US: Mum, EU: Mum, The sick deranged minds helming Amnesty Int'l : Mum, India's muslims: Mum. Sssshhhhh, don't criticise Fatherland China. Not a single medium in any Arab/muslim country even acknowledged the demolition act heinous. The ENTIRE UMMAH has delivered the most merciless cut with its -----SILENCE.

With the Vatican right behind it, Italy razed a mosque to build a library or something for Oriani Fallaci, the anti-jihadist, anti- muslim fighter to her last breath while the eunuchs ran for cover.

[[The decision to free Qatada has left Britain's anti-terror laws in tatters and the taxpayer facing a bill of tens of thousands of pounds to keep the preacher under surveillance by the security services.]]]

What tatters? Tony Blair and his NuLabour and his gang of traitors meant for this to happen. And they are absolutely delighted its working fine.
More "terrorism" laws to be enacted against the indigents, so simple, so easy.

[[Of the five children, only those aged 17,14, nine and six are eligible for the child benefit payments. Their oldest, who is 19, is not entitled to a handout.]]

Work your ass off harder Brits. Keep 'em muslim parasites in luxury while you have Heinz beans on toast 4 times/week, watered down mulk for your babies, and the worst of food while you are taxed to the hilt to keep 'em privileged muslim vermin you permit because you refuse to stand up and face with courage . Price for cowardliness. Plain and simple. When are you going to shed your tutus?

As for Abu Qatada, with Tony Blair having made it legitimate that native Brits have to pay for the darling muslim's polygamy, all he has to do is take another three more wives, breed like rats, and he and his family live in luxury while you the native Brit die homeless and hungry. It'll come your way, soon enough.

[[Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has appealed against the decision not to deport Qatada to Jordan while the Conservatives have said it is 'offensive' that he cannot be thrown out.]]

Don't believe this whore. She is right behind the muslims, supporting them at every turn while plotting your life on bended knees.

[[[The rulings mean that - despite Tony Blair's promise in the aftermath of the 7/7 attacks that the 'rules of the game have changed'............... ]]

Re: Blair's promise. Undercover Mosque showed Blair's government has appeased leading muslim apologists by inviting them to join "commissions" to investigate the 7/7 attacks, thus awarding them credibility well beyond their deserts. The very sinister individual named Inayat Bunglawala, assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain and a man with a public record of support for Osama bin Laden, was made a convener of Blair's task force on extremism despite his stated belief that the BBC and the rest of the media are "Zionist controlled."

So much for Tony Blair's promise. The Taliban now controls 600 of Britain’s 1,350 mosques and 80 percent of its home-trained clerics, according to an investigation by the Times. The seminary in Bury bans art, television, music and chess, and labels soccer as “a cancer that has infected our youth” (Times Online, September 7.). It preaches the destruction of the West and runs seminaries training adherents to do just that.The most influential scholar in this sect will soon be Riyadh ul Haq, a man who has lived in Britain nearly all his life and preaches that muslims must shun non-believers and that they must not be afraid to kill for allah.
And during Blair's watch Hizb ut tahrir , thrown out of Germany because it is a recognised terrorist organisation, were employed in Britain's Home Office, and the Muslim Brotherhood in the Foreign Office.

This is what Tony Blair said at a conferece where he pledged to spend one million pounds to improve the teaching of Islamic studies in Britain’s universities.
“The voices of extremism,” he told the conference, “are no more representative of Islam than the use in times gone by of torture to force conversions to Christianity represented the teachings of Christians.”

Under Tony Blair and NuLabour's governance:

“Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Government backed study has revealed.
“It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students (filthy muslims) whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.
(((Under Gordon Brown, Toddlers who dislike spicy food 'racist' The National Children's Bureau, which receives £12 million a year, mainly from Government funded organisations advises nursery teachers to be on the alert for childish abuse such as: "blackie", "Pakis", "those people" or "they smell". )))

“There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques..." They prefer appeasing and grovelling to muslims. Very feasilble.

The BRAVERY emerges when British Intelligentsia and Academia go ballistic calling for Boycott of Jewish Professors and Jewish Goods. Such courage on display.

In Machiavelli Tony Blair's and NuLabour's terminology and ideology, simply allowing muslims "free opinion" in calling for Britain's destruction, calling for "death" "behed those who insult islam" "as long as they don't do a violent crime" means hundreds of thousands of these muslim vermin to be propagandized, recruited and from that 1 in 100 or one in 70 primed for Jihadi butchery becomes inevitable. The vast majority of nazis were also "moderate" "peaceful" and "non-violent".
Just like the filth called muslims inhabiting your country.

Britain burns up its own heritage before the idol of political correctness and multiculturalism, while the leftists/liberals dance gleefully around the pyre.
British police are now in fact just too afraid to enforce laws against muslims for fear of being accused of 'racism', a 'disproportionate response', etc. They frequently don't even want to accept reports of crime in which the perpetrators are identified as being from the 'wrong' groups.

Every single muslim of note is a terrorist with links to terrorist organisations worldwide. Where is the resistance to this? When Britons voted NuLabour in they accepted the consensus imposed by political correctness where such threats are not discussed. In other words, dissenting voices are censored.
Political Correctness is an insidious form of propaganda warfare promulgated by socialist faculty in colleges to undermine values and cannot exist when brutal reality is required to protect. The muslim snake was always mollycoddled, pampered, in the name of peace, is taking its "jihad" on Brit indigents daily.

And you, the ordinary Briton, is responsible for all that's rotten to the core, and a sickness in Britain's heart. You allowed it to happen. You allowed Britain, with the heart of a Lion to be enslaved by the worst of the worst.


Anonymous said...

Council sponsored Radio Ramadan Luton, UK, ome of dozens of free radio stations given over to Muslims at Ramadan, continually ask for donations of money for downtrodden Muslims, especially "our brothers in Chechnya and Palestine."
How much of that charitable giving is registered and how much goes to food and clothing, compared to what go's to buying Kalashnikovs to kill the infidels?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

China, the world's third largest economy, reforming and expanding its military, five filthy mass murdering muslims were killed by Chinese police who wielded knives
when police raided their hideout, Xinhua reports. The world, including the OIC maintains deathly silence. If it were the West their fifth column and fourth estate traitors would be out with sharpened knives funded by oil money.

While Britain kisses the asses of Hizb ut-Tahrir, China says they are terrorists as the group is linked and works under orders of AlQaeda, and claim they operate in the far western region of Xinjiang, home to some 8 million Muslim, Turkic-speaking Uighurs, many of whom chafe under Chinese rule. The emergence of Hizb ut-Tahrir is a recent phenomenon in Xinjiang. Of course HuT denies it advocates violence. However, its quran sanctioned Taqiyyah would fool the West gullible fools but not China nor the Far East.

These mass murdering human bombs want to take over whole of China salami slice like they do in so many wester countries goverened by brain-drained moonbats and deranged liberals with people in tow.

In April, the Xinjiang government blamed Hizb ut-Tahrir for inciting protests in Khotan, in which the World Uyghur Congress said about 1,000 people took to the streets. These individuals were involved in a transnational conspiracy to set up an Islamic state and destabilize China.

"Strike hard against the Islamic Liberation Party" and "The Islamic Liberation Party is a violent terrorist organization" read the signs in Kashgar, written in red in both Chinese and Uighur's Arabic-based script. "Be very clear about the 'Islamic Liberation Party's' reactionary nature," the Kashgar government said in a notice on its website. "Be very clear about their pervasive and actual threat to Xinjiang and Kashgar."

It would be interesting to see mussie swine attack China during the Olympics. China has deployed surface-to-air missile launchers to protect the main venues for the Beijing Olympics from terrorist attack as part of one of the biggest – and most expensive – security operations in the country's history.

Any muslim reading this, China is building a road cutting through Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran into the Middle East. But the Chinese keep everything opaque and shift periodically to confuse the world. This strategy of deception is to keep everybody guessing, especially muslim zombies. The Chinese mindset: : preparation for the battle is more important than the battle itself.

That's the difference between being men with balls and pussified weenies.

John Sobieski said...

Here's the thing. If you don't give Islam respect, their bluster and threats fall flat. Islam should be ridiculed and mocked. Their demands denied and ridiculed. Their troublemakers deported posthaste. The West can solve the Islam problem with they had the balls.

hhashmo said...


you are right... As well, Muslims deservebetter than Islam. It is time the world brought to light information about a doctrine that corrodes the mind, and erodes any sense of moral decency.

Anonymous said...

If China and India are the New World
destined to become dominant Global Powers, then Islam will only be able to slide back into irrelevance.
There only hope for survival for them, is to burrow themselves into the fabric of the soft West, and like a parasitic organism, suck the life-force out to feed itself.

Anonymous said...

Seven years after Sept. 11, the leaders responsible for the safety and security of Western civilization still REFUSE to identify/name the enemy.

Their own population and the rest of the world is showered with platitudes of "islam is a religion of peace" "hijacked by a few" blah blah blah.

How then do leaders expect to rally their population when they don't understand what they are fighting and why they are fighting?
And you expect the people to figure it out in time to rally against the threat when the leaders enact laws of jail on questioning voices?

It will be China and Russia leading the war against islam, exterminating and eradicating it from the face of earth, not the pussified West. A requiem should be said for the West.


Anonymous said...

Britain agreed to pass intelligence about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden to the CIA only if the U.S. agency promised he would not be tortured, the Guardian newspaper reports.

The plan, outlined in a 75-page report by the British parliament's intelligence and security committee, approved the British sharing of bin Laden intelligence only if the U.S. gave assurances he would be treated humanely, the paper reports.
Britain's Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, believed it had information that would lead to the Al Qaeda leader's capture in Afghanistan in 1998 and 1999.

Last week the US to Britain: Explain Abu Hamza's emails to Al-Qaeda. This came about in the long diplomatic row that US prosecutors claim Britain's footdragging in extraditing the one eyed mister hook terrorist, who fled from Egypt after his failed attempt in assassinating Mubarak and embraced with much gusto by Blair's safe haven for terrorists of every stripe - Britain.. "freedom of religion", as applied by Muslims, does not come with responsibilities; only rights and entitlements and which both US and UK establishment proudly defends. Ugly truth!

As many as eight of Britain's police officers and civil staff have links to al Qaeda and other extremist groups. Some may have attended terrorist training camps. One suspect circulated downloaded images of beheadings and roadside bombings from Iraq. But none will be fired; the Daily Mail reports that the police do not have the “legal power” to dismiss the suspects, the Daily Mail reports. London will therefore maintain its trend of allowing radical Islam to grow in Britain. And the Hizb-ut-Tahir mass murderer in the Home Office will provide all details to his fellow mass murderers. Happy dying Britons.

In America you’ll find muslims in the highest branches of American intelligence aiding and abetting muslim terrorists. Here are two examples:

July 23 /Christian Newswire/ -- Colonel David Hunt told Fox News last week that our soldiers could have killed Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri in 2005. However, they were stopped from taking any action by then Secretary of State, Donald Rumsfeld. Clinton did same. He allowed Osama bin Laden to escape his hospital bed. Concerned Americans have asked why, out of the 14 many ended up mysteriously Dead.

US fought shoulder to shoulder with Al-Qaida against the Serbs in the 90s. They still fight them. Not one word of anti-Serb muslim atrocities in the Western/US media. And Serbs were the staunchiest and most loyal ally to US during both World Wars. That's American sense of justice, loyalty, democracy, folks.
Muslim terrorists and muslims are the darlings of both the US and the UK. The blanket of "fighting terrorism" is to deceive the world while the Pentagon makes billions. War has a track record of bringing in billions. So why stop making billions with peace? The Pentagon recently was extremely pleased at the billions it raked in with the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Afghanistan, while planning to sell OBSOLETE arsenal to the corrupt Congress of INDIA ruled by
the Vatican's whore Sonia Gandhi.

And that's the Real Situation in combatting terrorism by both US and UK. On the other hand, both China and Russia have proven to their people and to the world that their country, their people come first, at all times. Just contrast Putin's 8 years with Bush. China doesn't have to go to war with the US. It can wreck it economically and walk through. The Chinese Secret Red Society controls much of the US. Still want to swallow American /British 'democracy' BS?